Thursday, October 18, 2007

Download Links and Hash Outputs

I never have quite figured out why people will put a download link with a SHA-1 or MD5 hash output side-by-side on the same web page. Somebody named "KJK::Hyperion" has released an unofficial patch to the Microsoft URI problem. Right there on the download page is a set of hash outputs.

From a quality perspective, sure, using a cryptographic hash might demonstrate that the large file you downloaded did or didn't get finish properly, but so could its file size.

Suppose, by either a man-in-the-middle or full-on rooting of the webserver (either will work: one is on the fly while the other is more permanent), that I can replace a generally benevolent binary file with something malicious. If I can do that, what is to stop me from generating a proper (take your pick) SHA-1 or MD5 hash and replacing the good hash on the web page with my bad one? The hash does not tell you anything. If the adversary can tamper and replace one, she could certainly tamper and replace the other.

If you are worried about quality only and not so much about chain-of-custody or tampering, you might as well just place the file size in bytes on the web page. If you are worried about tampering, use a digital signature of some sort (any PKC is better than none) so that the end-user can establish some sort of non-repudiation.


And keep in mind that:
A) You are trusting your computer to do the crypto (you're not doing it in your head),
and
B) Digital signatures can be used in trust decisions, but they do not automatically indicate trustworthiness (i.e. they do not necessarily indicate the author's intentions).

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This is an excellent quote from Bruce Schneier on the subject of hashes/signatures:
"The problem is that while a digital signature authenticates the document up to the point of the signing computer, it doesn't authenticate the link between that computer and Alice. This is a subtle point. For years, I would explain the mathematics of digital signatures with sentences like: 'The signer computes a digital signature of message m by computing m^e mod n.' This is complete nonsense. I have digitally signed thousands of electronic documents, and I have never computed m^e mod n in my entire life. My computer makes that calculation. I am not signing anything; my computer is."

2 comments:

Giulia Q said...

Sorry about that, I had left my PGP key in my other pair of trousers, so I had to make do with the "Can't Believe It's Not Cryptography™" surrogate

Tim MalcomVetter said...

KJK, thanks for commenting. I was just picking on you since you were the convenient example of the moment. Thanks for being a good sport.